How to Edit Join Page? Fname/Lname Join Fields?

I can't find out how to edit the Join Page

I have REALLY tried to read everything I could in the help sections on Advanced User Management, Custom Field, etc. before I posted this question.  I always try to figure things out on my own – to learn – but I'm a bit stumped here.   I have set up a private Condo community site where Users have to agree to the rules (which I figured out how to edit  ) and join.  I figured out how to add a couple of custom fields to the Join form and have gone back to the Edit Custom Profile Field configuration and figured out how to add and remove using the tickbox, showing custom fields on the join form.

After doing that though, I tried to add a First Name and Last Name field to the join form – which were already available fields for activation apparently – however, when I activated the "show on join form" tick box for both, neither of them are showing up and I can't figure out why.

ALSO, I would like to edit the "username" and "password" guidance that shows up on the join form when you click the "question mark" blue icon – I'd like to specify or recommend  how to configure the Username, and what the minimum password entry should be.   I can't figure out anywhere how to do that.  I've attached an image of my current join form.

My apologies if this is easy to do – I have really looked through the documentation and have been al around it but just can't figure it out.  Any help would be appreciated.


 

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Hello :) Your first issue may be cache related so I would suggest emptying relevant caches via Admin Zone > Tools > → Website cleanup tools and hopefully those CPF's will appear.

Before you may join you must agree to our rules. Read through the rules, then at the bottom either agree & proceed, or disagree." is a language string. If you hover the Help icon in Admin Zone a search box appears, typing the beginning of the text should return the "DESCRIPTION_I_AGREE_RULES" language string for edit. The Username and Password guidance is likely a language string too.

The Rules text itself is part of a Comcode page, browse to Content Management → > Comcode pages where you'll find the rules and _rules page available to edit. Not sure which the Join page uses but I'd expect you'd want both to read the same (the _rules page is designed for displaying via overlay).

Browse to Admin Zone > → Setup → > Configuration → > Security options then scroll down to Usernames and passwords for those config options.

Hope this helps :)

 

Hi JCG!

I can't recreate the issue here so perhaps clearing your caches? What version are you running?

As for your second question:

Admin Zone → Style → Translate/rephrase Composr

Select 'CNS' from the second section and the fields are you are looking for are entitled:

DESCRIPTION_USERNAME
DESCRIPTION_PASSWORD

ooppss, shoulda refreshed the post before I submitted; didn't see your response KingBast, apologies.

No problem, you provided the other language strings which I didn't get around to. Hard to deal with that page when logged in

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Thank you KingBast and SoccerDad -- your help is greatly appreciated.

SO, I got part fixed and part still not working.  THANK YOU both!    SoccerDad -- I would've NEVER thought of the Admin Zone → Style → Translate/rephrase Composr  as the location to change the "help" buttons but sure enough, there it was.  Worked perfectly -- thank you -- and that can help me in other areas.

Relative to the First Name and Last Name CPFs not showing, it's still not working for some odd reason.  Initially, I went to the Website Cleanup Tools and cleaned first what I thought were the relevant caches, and then ALL of them, but, that still didn't fix the problem of the First Name and Last Name fields showing up.   I had already figured out how to set the requirements for Usernames and Passwords in the Admin Zone > → Setup → > Configuration → > Security options / Usernames and password  section so thank you for that. 

To be sure I didn't miss something obvious, I re-checked two pages: 
1) Admin Zone → Setup → Configuration → User/usergroup options --> Special CPFs to Show -- where I made sure that "Enable first/last name fields" was ticked/selected.    Also though, I went to
2) Admin Zone → Tools → Members → Custom Profile Fields → Edit Custom Profile Field, where the table of CPFs comes up and it shows BOTH First Name and Last Name as show on the join form. 

CPF Table.jpg

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What I didn't think about with my first post but checked this time and find odd, is that neither the First Name or Last Name show up in the user profile within the Member Directory when I look at it.  It's as if the fields are just not registering.   It seems likely that the fact they are NOT showing up in the User Profile means something else I did is wrong.  

Any further thoughts?   I appreciate your quick thinking and help.

Happy to help and the way my day is going, lucky to be of any help lol. Case in point: I completely misread your original post so my testing can be disregarded as what I show in the screenshot were all fields I created myself, sorry 'bout that.

On the upside: doesn't appear to be anything you've done or not done as I can confirm that the fields do not show up.

I followed your steps and then edited side by side the bundled field with the one I created to ensure they matched in all regards but only the fields I created showed up. I then edited the bundled last name field to make it required while leaving the one I created as not required and was able to join indicating that indeed, the fields are not firing for some reason. I deleted the First/Last name fields I created while leaving the bundled ones as is and they didn't show either. Lastly, viewing a page source and searching for last and first as well as directly viewing where the fields should have shown up in the form and they weren't there (meaning no wayward css or javascript hiding them).

So we'll have to wait for some further guidance on this issue, good catch. Chris & Co. are always quite prompt to review issues so wait time won't be too long.

Hi SoccerDad,

Thanks for your response and for your checking to see if you could re-create the occurrence.  I'm shocked (but also relieved) that it's not something that I didn't do properly.   I've installed and used quite a few open source products (although not a coder but can work the forums usually pretty well) and this software seems VERY powerful and configurable.  But, it's also complicated with all the options and the difference "strucure" of comcode pages, etc.   Anyway, I guess I'll just wait to see if Chris (I don't know him but hi Chris! ) can look at this and see if it's a problem with the code, or somethign I did.  

Thanks again -- to SoccerDad, KingBast and Chris.  

Hey,

Regarding those CPFs not showing on the join form…

The special CPFs were designed to serve inbuilt purposes. These ones in particular are designed for eCommerce, so it can use them for shipping details. We install them without even knowing Conversr is the forum being used - so they could just as well be injected into something like phpBB.
Allowing them to be used for other things was a bit of an after thought and still evolving, and the full set of Conversr CPF settings wasn't considered for them, only the subset of settings that are shared by all forum drivers (phpBB, SMF, etc etc). Personally, I never thought about them being put on the join form, and on testing I see they get filtered out. I'll consider it a bug, and I've just put through a fix for that for the next patch release. It makes sense for you to use the bundled fields.
You can see if it's a special CPF as it puts a note about it at the top when you're editing.

If you want the fix now, grab these latest files off of git…

• https://raw.githubuser…ster/sources/cns_join.php
• https://raw.githubuser…r/sources/cns_members.php
• https://raw.githubuser…s/cns_members_action2.php
• https://raw.githubuser…les_tabs_edit/profile.php
• https://raw.githubuser…es_tabs_edit/settings.php

(I edited other files, but those were for either non-bundled addons or just cosmetic changes to the code)

Thanx Chris!

JCG0001 said

 But, it's also complicated with all the options and the difference "strucure" of comcode pages, etc.

At the risk of aging myself, I originally arrived at Composr from the PHP Nuke and Mambo/Joomla world when it was still ocPortal and they were just releasing v3. I too was somewhat overwhelmed at the package but set about trying to recreate with ocPortal what I had with the other CMS's. To be honest, I've never really looked back. The first hook was forums: back in the day, forum packages were standalone so those that would actually integrate cleanly with the N/M/J and other CMS's were few and far between, often requiring bridge plugins that were complex and prone to blowing up. OCP however had its own forum package built right in, no fuss no muss. Exploring from that point turned into just plain fun. One thing I've found with the package is there is more than one way to skin the proverbial cat so you are not locked into a single way of doing things. On top of that, the flexibility is second to none, hands down. If it doesn't exist right out of the box, there are various inbuilt tools that will allow you to create what you need. Additionally, the Composr Crew can be contracted to create professional tools and customizations should one be in need of further functionality.

*grin*, I'm a fanboy and could go on forever so I'll leave it there.

Welcome aboard JCG, some good folks here on the forums and the Composr staff are always monitoring for those cases that go beyond community support or are bugish in nature.