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Is it possible to  reset the global file and the news file?
There are to many mistakes in those files.
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lifeguard said

Is it possible to  reset the global file and the news file?
There are to many mistakes in those files.


Hmf, thats my old account. Sorry heheheheh

lifeguard said

Is it possible to  reset the global file and the news file?
There are to many mistakes in those files.


Hmf, thats my old account. Sorry heheheheh
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Hi,

Please clarify.

I think you're talking about CSS files. But what are you trying to "reset" to? Immediately after the theme wizard had run to produce the theme? The default theme's version (i.e. not altered by the Theme Wizard)?
There's a full revision history of the file in the editor, with revert support.


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Sorry, i mean the files on transifex.
global.ini and news has some strange things. (dutch language)
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Ah I see, this may better as a question put to the Transifex developers, as I'm not sure you can.

But I do have a suggestion…

Use the 'Review' feature. For any string you're happy with mark it as 'Reviewed'. You can filter by Reviewed/Not-Reviewed, so this will help you keep track of things.

If you don't have reviewer access let me know and I'll see if I can assign it to you.


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Hi Chris,

Thanks for your comment.
I dont have this access.

But i can also explain the problems here if you want? Maybe you can show me wich line i have to change?
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I've:

  1. Assigned you reviewer access.
  2. Split this into a fresh topic so you can post your issues as needed.


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Chris, please look at this.

I set up an testboard with fresh compo.sr
by default, all is English, but on a dutch site its not so nice :)

Wen i change language by Translate/Rephrase page i can translate that page into dutch. ( i know its not the way, but to show you my rpblems its much easier.)

I change the language of my frontpage and there it is.
After change, everything looks nice. But my comments on the 2 articles was gone. ( the topic was still exist WITH comments)
So, i try to comment again, and it works. 
But, when i look at the forum, all the articles are double, please see screens. How is this possible?

index nieuwe translate.pngforum index dubbele topics.png

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Right this should have been documented, as it is an issue. Here's what I've written…

Composr associated topics with content using the topic description field. This involves a translated language string.
Therefore if you switch your default site language, any existing topics will become disassociated.
You can resolve with a manual database query (in something like phpMyAdmin):

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UPDATE cms_f_topics SET t_description=REPLACE(t_description, 'Comment: ', 'Commentaire: ');
Replace Commentaire with whatever you have translated the COMMENT language string to.
The example assumes the table prefix is cms_.


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Ok, its not that bad but …

if i stay again with a fresh install what is the best way to start translating to avoid this?
Transifex is not a good solution because my work block this site …
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Hi,

I'm not really sure how I can answer that question well, but I'll try.

The SQL query I gave should stop it being an active problem.
That's the best solution I can give, as the actual English/Dutch text used for comment topic association is stored in the database. It has to work like that due to Composr's support for third-party forums (i.e. we have to make the association key fit into some kind of human-readable topic field).

I highly recommend Transifex, otherwise Dutch translators are repeating work.

I would not really advise translating Composr in work hours without a boss's permission ;). However, there are ways to get around blocks - e.g. Opera has an inbuilt proxy.


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My boss agree when i work on my sites. If work is done, then its OK ;)

I delete all my translated strings, and start over.
Now everything is ok.

1 question, where can i find the months?
Because i think, i look in all files but there is still June, May and the other months.
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This is the locale string needing to be set properly. This should be covered in the Internationalisation tutorial.


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So it doesnt make sense if i translate it or not?
I look to the settings but i cant see where it goes wrong

Note: You are fast :)
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What is your current translation of the locale string?

I would guess it needs to be set to this for Dutch:
nl-NL.UTF-8,nl_NL.UTF-8,nl.UTF-8,nl-NL,nl_NL,nl

What works depends on what kind of server it is and what locales are installed on it. The above should cover a number of common possibilities.

If you can't use locale, you'll need to use LOCALE_SUBST to do replacements over the English locale, which is also documented in the Internationalisation tutorial.


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Thanks Chris.

Now i have another thing.
I translate a lot of my site now in Dutch.
I realy want to help the Composr community for the Dutch fans.

The one on Transifex is realy bad, because there a lot of mistakes.
Is it possible to exprt my langauage and send this to you, or upload it here so Dutch starters can use it as basic?

I also want o try to get people who use phpBB to come to Composr.
I see many people using extenions and ask for thing that composr already have, so they maybe like to use it.
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Chris,

About time and dates are looking fine now. But only with the activity-plugin i see there is everywhere english ,,
Can i fix this?
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Is it possible to exprt my langauage and send this to you, or upload it here so Dutch starters can use it as basic?

Please do share, you can upload an addon to the directory:
Translations - Composr
You'll see an Add Download link near(ish) the bottom.

About time and dates are looking fine now. But only with the activity-plugin i see there is everywhere english ,,
Can i fix this?

I don't think there's much more I can say other than what I already said about locale_subst and what's in the documentation. Here's a direct link with an example for locale_subst:
Composr Tutorial: Localisation and internationalisation - Composr

If it's not working please share what you have for your locale and locale_subst strings and maybe I can see an error.

Possibly also the block cache needs emptying, I'm not sure.


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Hi :)

I use for locale, and substr both
nl-NL.UTF-8,nl_NL.UTF-8,nl.UTF-8,nl-NL,nl_NL,nl

but the activity stays in English.

I will look tomorow to upload my NL language to the directory on the composr site. Now it is time to sleep.
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Ok. This probably means the Dutch locale is not installed on your server.

However, locale_subst is very different to locale.

You need something more like…

Monday=maandag,Tuesday=dinsdag,Wednesday=...

See the Tamil example in the documentation I linked to for a better idea of everything you may need to set there. You're remapping the individual words that come out of the English locale to the equivalent words in Dutch.
It's a workaround for when server's don't have a real locale installed.



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